What The Employees Earn: Granville Township
Thu, 02/26/2009 - 17:28
 Updated 03/04/09: This is the second of a four-part series about the costs of employees in our four government entities: the Village, the Township, the Schools, and the Library. There has been concern recently over the size of raises for Granville Village workers, a four-year contract for the school superintendent, and upcoming negotiations on the teachers’ contract. The data in this series will help understand the reasons for pay raises, even in these troubled economic times.
The other stories in this series:
According to figures supplied by Township Fiscal Officer, Norman Kennedy, the Township paid approximately $839,216 in total gross wages in 2008.
On March 4, 2009, Kennedy notified The Granville Press that "I noticed in the salary information that I sent you that one of our employees started in the Cemetery when he was first hired and has since transferred to our Roads Department. His expense is correct but the old CEME code was never changed. Zach Huhn should be reflected as a Roads employee."
Editor’s note: The story has been corrected.
Shown in the tables below is the Total Gross pay for each employee.
Elected Officials
Name |
Title |
Gross
Pay |
| Kennedy, Norman |
Fiscal Officer |
$21,221 |
| Abraham, Fred |
Trustee |
12,346 |
| Habig, William |
Trustee |
12,346 |
| Sargent, Wesley |
Trustee |
12,346 |
| Total for Elected Officials |
$58,259 |
|
Cemetery Staff
Name |
Title |
Gross
Pay |
| Meisenhelder, R |
Cemetery Staff |
22,388 |
| Henry, Kevin M |
Cemetery Staff |
15,621 |
| Polk, Carter G |
Cemetery Staff |
13,161 |
| Moore, Vicki A |
Cemetery Staff |
400 |
| Westall, Lisa H |
Cemetery Staff |
200 |
| Total for Cemetery Staff |
$51,771 |
|
Fire Department
Name |
Title |
Gross
Pay |
| Hussey, Jeff A |
Fire Department Chief |
$81,510 |
| Bowman, |
Fire Department Employee |
64,229 |
| Thompson, Jr. |
Fire Department Employee |
62,930 |
| Curtis, Casey R |
Fire Department Employee |
60,018 |
| Hall, Aaron T. |
Fire Department Employee |
54,608 |
| Reece, Brandon |
Fire Department Employee |
48,004 |
| Borden, Charles |
Fire Department Employee |
46,118 |
| Jones, Aaron C. |
Fire Department Employee |
12,186 |
| Essick, Bradley |
Fire Department Employee |
11,909 |
| DuBeck, III, Pa |
Fire Department Employee |
10,841 |
| Lynn, Jr, Terry |
Fire Department Employee |
10,142 |
| Duncan, C. Mich |
Fire Department Employee |
10,000 |
| Barnhill, Thoma |
Fire Department Employee |
9,966 |
| Smith, Douglas |
Fire Department Employee |
9,672 |
| Jones, Brian P. |
Fire Department Employee |
8,781 |
| Coyle, Gregory |
Fire Department Employee |
7,637 |
| Riley, Jr., Ste |
Fire Department Employee |
7,298 |
| Gottfried, N. B |
Fire Department Employee |
6,962 |
| Principe, III, |
Fire Department Employee |
6,334 |
| Thomas, Larry R |
Fire Department Employee |
5,709 |
| Hill, John B |
Fire Department Employee |
5,037 |
| Baucher, Jeffer |
Fire Department Employee |
3,326 |
| Harrison, Joshu |
Fire Department Employee |
2,695 |
| Gottfried, Brian |
Fire Department Employee |
99 |
| Otter, Robert M |
Fire Department Volunteer |
1,246 |
| Scheiderer, Lar |
Fire Department Volunteer |
1,020 |
| Bow, Joshua D |
Fire Department Volunteer |
923 |
| Evans, Cameron |
Fire Department Volunteer |
923 |
| Leckrone, Bradt |
Fire Department Volunteer |
866 |
| Ford, Tad D. |
Fire Department Volunteer |
847 |
| Barns, Stephen |
Fire Department Volunteer |
767 |
| Ktshler, David |
Fire Department Volunteer |
645 |
| Nicodem, Stanley |
Fire Department Volunteer |
468 |
| Kindell, Daniel |
Fire Department Volunteer |
404 |
| White, Edward L |
Fire Department Volunteer |
377 |
| Smith, Trevor D |
Fire Department Volunteer |
365 |
| Lukins, Jerry J |
Fire Department Volunteer |
319 |
| Legg, Ryan M. |
Fire Department Volunteer |
311 |
| Curtis, Janet E |
Fire Department Volunteer |
284 |
| Sombat, Emma |
Fire Department Volunteer |
253 |
| Janning, David |
Fire Department Volunteer |
220 |
| Torpey, Daniell |
Fire Department Volunteer |
195 |
| Dutton, II, Cha |
Fire Department Volunteer |
185 |
| Zaim, Nadia |
Fire Department Volunteer |
172 |
| Saunders, Andre |
Fire Department Volunteer |
134 |
| Total for Fire Department |
$556,934 |
|
Road Crew
Name |
Title |
Gross
Pay |
| Binckley, B. Tr |
Roads Crew Superintendent |
$62,104 |
| Huhn, Zachery L |
Roads Crew |
$28,642 |
| Butt, Joshua M |
Roads Crew |
26,925 |
| Giles, Timothy |
Roads Crew |
15,456 |
| Ufert, Curtis J |
Roads Crew |
12,509 |
| Bishop, Jack E. |
Roads Crew |
6,813 |
| Ufert, Curtis J |
Roads Crew |
1,391 |
| Total for Road Crew |
$153,841 |
|
Zoning Staff
Name |
Title |
Gross
Pay |
| May, Warren J. |
Zoning Officer |
$18,284 |
| Engle, Stacy R |
Zoning Staff |
128 |
| Total for Zoning Staff |
$18,412 |
|
The total gross pay of all employees of Granville Township for 2008 was $839,216. This number does not include the Township’s costs for Social Security and Medicare, health insurance, retirement benefits and other employee related expenses.
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Hey, Thornborough! Gettin'
Hey, Thornborough! Gettin’ pretty warm in your kitchen…just feel the love. And don’t touch that stove!
singlepie
Response to Chris
Hi Chris,
Thanks for being willing to post openly. I thought about posting anonymously but felt that would have been a bit cowardly.
I understand that salaries are a public record and everyone has the right to know what Village and Township employees make. I’m just questioning whether it is essential to broadcast the salaries of lower level people. So far no one has answered my question about what important public policy is served by revealing salary information on low level employees. My $767 dollars is pretty much immaterial but if I was working hard to take home twenty-five grand and the landed gentry of Granville was publishing my salary for political purposes I would be annoyed.
In return for this, I have been called “defensive” and “mad” and had my motives questioned “grinding something (unknown to me) in there yourself.” Just to clarify, I not angry and I really don’t have any motive other than that I am a private person who hoped to be left alone. I have no interest in public office and the only property I own is the house that I live in. Can the publisher or the commenters can say the same.
Before this all started I had read perhaps three articles on the Granville Press. Since then I have read several postings and done a bit of research. The feeling I come away with is that every article should be read with the thought “how does this impact the Seven Pines property?” The idea that Jack is serving a social good is certainly questionable here. The Granville Press seems to be the propaganda arm of Jack Thornborough’s property holding company.
To answer some of the questions about how I should have expected to have my privacy invaded here you go:
-When I joined the department I had no idea that there would be any compensation;
-I joined the department when it was a private corporation and salary data wasn’t a public record; and
-The department later voted to become a township entity so that we could better serve the public. I don’t think any of us weighed disclosure of our salaries in the equation.
There is a social cost to the ‘sunshine’ here. If I were a bright young teacher with an offer from Upper Arlington and one from Granville, I would probably go to Upper Arlington to avoid this sort of unpleasantness. In my initial comment I didn’t deny that this site can disclose salary data I questioned only whether it should.
Finley Dunne once said that the purpose of the press is to comfort the afflicted and afflict the comfortable, that ethos appears to be absent here. What I see from the Granville Press is the comfortable afflicting everyone with whom they disagree. The echo chamber of anonymous comments certainly doesn’t help matters.
Regards,
Steve Barns
Let's explore this a bit
If Jack wanted to benefit his “property holding company” he would not be religiously opposing high density zoning for River Road. The zoning proposed by some in the village would have allowed his “property holding company” to significantly increase their buildout and therefore the value of the land involved.
Despite that personal interest in having such zoning adopted, Jack Thornborough opposed the higher density personally and exposed the plans for it in The Granville Press.
What makes Jack’s position stand out is the position adopted by others who would be impacted by that zoning change. Ben Barton and Roger Kessler, both landowners who would benefit from the zoning change have been all over village council trying to get the much higher density zoning. When Barton and Kessler aren’t on council’s back they are threatening to develop in the township if they don’t get their way with the village.
To promote the Barton/Kessler/Habig high density development plans Bill Habig was trying to get a sewer plant at the end of River Road; a sewer plant that would be run by the same people who run the sewer system in Pataskala. If you want to point a finger at those who have solely their own narrow self interest at heart in the River Road area, you best point it at Barton and Kessler.
Jack is different. He has placed the community’s interest above his own.
As far as the bright young teacher, if such a difference would cause them to switch to Upper Arlington, then perhaps they do not value sufficiently all Granville has to offer.
Barton and Kessler are something else
I have seen Ben Barton and Roger Kessler at council meetings. They can and should be ignored. They are two loud-mouthed bullying louts who have never grown up. They sit in those meetings and talk loudly to each other while others are trying to do council business. In the end I doubt the village is stupid enough to cave in to their clumsy bullying tactics.
LOL...
LOL. Well, now tell us how you really feel…
Seriously, while I understand where you are coming from with your post, my point was somewhat different. I do not believe the village council would fall for the sort of appeal you mention.
What I was trying to say was that any attack against Jack Thornborough related to his property interests in the River Road area is, simply put, bogus.
Tired of being taken
I understand what you are saying.
I’m just fed up with these arrogant people taking advantage of Granville for their own personal gain at the expense of the rest of us.
Yep
Yep, agreed.
We all need to remember that in November when we have a chance to change some of the players…
the truth is easy to remember
it’s lies you have to remember”
I was taught that growing up. Knowing that one can spin something anyway they want, there is always only one truth.
Only Jack knows why he does what he does. The rest of us can only speculate. Like the time the Ohio EPA had high level interest in his wastewater / septic / sewage issues. Or why he has no means of storm water retention (as required by township code). Let’s not kid ourselves about how wonderful he is or the virtues of his altruism.
Here we go again...
This line of attack sounds familiar. Somebody named NoSpin brought it up last time.
For the record, thanks to Rod:
http://granvillepress.com/node/17#comment-10
Bully!
Bravo Steve. Bravo!
Thank you for your thoughts, and for your service.
Judgment and Effort
Chris,
I largely agree with your comments about sunshine; however, I wonder what important public policy is being served by publishing individual salary data.
The anonymous author of these articles has an ax to grind with village and township governments. I just don’t understand how this is served by publishing the salary of someone who earns his living with a shovel in his hand or one who steps away from his primary job in the middle of the day to help with a medical emergency.
It would take a little bit of effort and a modicum of judgment to write:
“Fulltime firefighter/paramedic salaries averaged $55,984.50, based on rank and experience, for a total of $335,907. Hourly firefighter salaries averaged $7564.35, for a total of $128,594, and twenty-one volunteer firefighters were compensated $10,924.00 based on seniority, training and runs taken.”
Ah, effort and judgment—-both sadly lacking at the Granville Press.
Steve Barns
What is the problem?
“A little bit of effort and a modicum of judgment?”
In the interest of good will I will just let that drop on the floor.
However, it didn’t take me very long to figure out that quite a few volunteers were receiving little for their time engaging in an important service to the community.
I believe you are underestimating the ability of readers to figure things out for themselves.
Quite frankly one of the strengths of The Granville Press is its tendency to keep opinion out of news stories. Unfortunately that is not the case with the Sentinel which through story selection (and non-selection) and outright misrepresentation regularly slants the truth. Perhaps that highly selective feeding is what you want. But I would prefer the facts.
The Granville Press provides an extraordinary amount of primary information. The interpretation is up to us all. Editorial comment is confined to items marked as editorials rather than sprinkled throughout.
Yes, The Granville Press does at times publish information that some in power would prefer the public be kept in the dark about (e.g., Bill Habig wanting to bring Pataskala sewer into the township, or wanting to set up a new sewer plant at the end of River Road or wanting to increase the residential development potential of the township). Those people do have a reason to be embarrassed; they should be as they are not working in the public’s interest. But in the case of the other volunteer members and yourself, you should be pleased and feel proud, and certainly not embarrassed or awkward.
Again, I am left with my own interpretation that a lot of good people are doing a lot of good things while consuming relatively little tax money.
In response to Mr. Barns (with respect)
I don’t know you, but right now I respect you as an individual and a doer of noble public service…but you’re grinding something (unknown to me)in there yourself.
Thornborough and some associates (and anyone else who wants to contribute, I think— you’re doing it) seem to me to be providing another kind of service to the community— a homemade news organ that regularly out-performs its commercial competitors. You work for the public. Your salary is public. You had to come to terms with that when you started, didn’t you? Why should the GP get editorial with the facts— why not provide the unvarnished facts as a service? Sunshine equals more light than heat.
singlepie
Thanks So Much
I just wanted to thank you for publicizing my salary with the Granville Township Fire Department. As a bit of background information this works out to less than $2 per hour, much less if you count the mileage.
I know that it is public data and you have the right to publish this information. The question you should ask is not whether you can but whether you should.
I won’t bore you with the entire Teddy Roosevelt quote but I thought this might be relevant:
It is not the critic who counts; not the man who points out how the strong man stumbles, or where the doer of deeds could have done them better… Shame on the man of cultivated taste who permits refinement to develop into fastidiousness that unfits him for doing the rough work of a workaday world.
In return for waking up at 2AM to help your neighbors, I get my privacy invaded and to read anonymous comments by those who sleep through the night.
Thanks again,
Steve Barns
With all due respect and appreciation, give Jack a break
Steve,
I am confident that all appreciate your efforts and do not begrudge what little you receive for your time, dedication and effort.
Frankly I think a number of the salaries in a couple of the governmental units are low.
Note that the editor multiple times noted that he was publishing the salaries in part to point out why increases were needed for some even when the economy is tough.
Thanks for your service.
May I suggest an alternative?
In the spirit of both trying to to shed sunshine on public records, but in keeping the spirit of being “neighborly,” which ultimately should be one of the goals of the site in addition to its journalistic slant, I might suggest that Jack continue to publish these salaries but keep the names to himself. It thereby retains some level on anonymity.
I might also suggest that the salaries are off because he requested the yearly totals, not the yearly salary rate. These salaries do not always reflect the base pay.
It is public work, not private work
I had no idea there were so many volunteers until Jack published this information.
For me seeing the names with the salaries was a positive. In the case of the volunteers I felt it was a positive to them. That they receive so little only builds my opinion of them.
In the case of the school salaries there were a number of teachers who I felt should be paid more given what I know of their abilities.
I am dismayed that some of the police salaries are as low as they are. Personally I would prefer to pay police enough to live in the community they protect.
All of these opinions of mine are formed because I know the people involved. I know that teacher X really should be paid another $10,000. I know that person Y on village staff has always been right on top of things and always willing to help; and, now I know that person is being paid less than others in a similar role in other governmental units. Because I have interacted with the person involved, I now am motivated to express my thoughts to those in control of the salaries. To me that is not a negative; that is what is right.
Now it is true that if I had seen someone who I felt was being paid to much I would mention that also. But that would also be what is right.
We are after all talking about people whose salaries we pay. It may not be ultra-comfortable to have one’s salary generally known, but that is what happens when one engages in public work. It is part of the tradeoff, just as having less of a risk of losing your job is an advantage of public work.
"Whynotthebest" speaks my mind
Very thoughtful.
I don't understand why Steve is mad
I think publishing the salaries was simply data transfer and done without judgement. In Steve’s case, it helps the community understand that he get’s paid very little for the time he puts in and the risk he willingly exposes himself to in order to help the community. He is being a true public servant who should be applauded for his efforts.
I’m pretty sure he knows about Supreme Court Justice Louis D. Brandeis quote “Sunshine is the best disinfectant.” I’m a big believer in transparency in all aspects of government. Without full knowledge of our government’s actions, how are we to keep them from running amuck?
You're being a bit defensive
Nice quote, but I think you’re being defensive. I didn’t see anything in the story that was critical of your or anyone elses salary.
And, as you point out, because you work for a government entity, your salary is public information.
Shouldn’t it be? Shouldn’t your salary be known to those who pay you?
I think so and I think most citizens think so too.
Don’t blame the messenger. The Granville Press is just doing what the press in this country is supposed to do. It is letting those who pay the bills know how their money is being spent.
I suspect most of us thank you for your work and don’t begrudge your salary. But, if we do, we have the right to express how we feel.
After all, remember, we do pay your salary.
Township trustees need to adopt some spending discipline
Wow. I had no idea. Anyway you cut it the township seems to pay more.
Now that I think about it this could also explain the $750,000 garage…
Township frugality?
These numbers are interesting and surprising.
The Township likes to promote itself as a beacon of frugality. That’s supposed to partly explain its old-fashioned, seat-of-the-pants amateurishness — no office for taxpayers to visit, meetings at a cemetery, etc. — just a low-budget, no frills operation.
The salary data show this image is not accurate. The Township is the place to go for higher salaries and less responsibility. Even the elected officials get paid $1,000 a month, plus medical and pension benefits.
And the Village government — supposedly a hotbed of free-spending Denison University liberalism — turns out to be the parsimonious one. Village Council members receive no compensation. The Village pays just $55,000 a year to the fellow responsible for its roads, traffic lights, etc., while the Township dishes out $62,000 a year to a fellow who runs a smaller road crew.
This isn’t to say which employee is overpaid or underpaid. I think Village Council members should be paid $500 a month to offset the enormous time commitment required.
But the salary data does show that, pound-for-pound, the Village delivers services at a much lower cost than the Township. It turns out that professionalism — ie. the manager form of government — is less expensive than good ol’ boyism.
Doesn't seem fair or appropriate does it?
A talented and educated planner earns $55,273 in the Village, the Village Service Director earns $55,273 and the Township Road Crew Superintendent earns $62,104. The person who keeps our water and sewer working earns $55,273.
It seems to me that the planner ($55,273) should be earning more than the Village Service Director ($55,273). She should be earning about $70,000 which is what people with her talent and experience are earning in nearby communities. The Village Service Director should be earning at least what the Township Roads Crew Supervisor is earning ($62,104). After all, the Service Director has 15 employees and the Roads Crew Supervisor has 5 employees. Maybe Terry Hopkins should earn $186,312 - that’s three times what Binckley earns - Hopkins has three times the responsibility.
Seems to me that the Township has too much money to spend - the Village Police Chief earns $59,280 and the Township Fire Chief earns $81,510! Is that fair or appropriate?
I don’t think so.